THESE BITCHES NEVER CARED ABOUT ANY OF YOU! WHEN YOU THREW YOUR SUPPORT BEHIND THEM ALL YOU ENDED UP DOING WAS SUPPORTING THEIR FREE RIDE OF FREE LIFETIME SHOPS OVER ON ARTFIRE!
As you can see in this blog post of mine in the comment section
http://
pussdaddyblogs.blogspot.com/2009/11/well-artfire-i-hate-to-say-i-told-ya-so.html
one of the Etsy Bitches, or an ex-Bitch, whatever
http://
etsybitch.blogspot.com/
shows up and talks about how they were given free lifetime accounts at ArtFire for work that they did for HandMadeNews
http://
www.handmadenews.org/home/index.php
It's all here in the comment section of the blog post I posted above. Didn't I say from the start that the Etsy Bitches never really gave a shit about any of you other sellers, and that it was all about the Bitches? It always has been and always will be. The whole time they were telling all of you that they were "bitching for change" they were really just hating on Etsy so they could have free shops for life at ArtFire. Their goal it seems was to rip Etsy apart while at the same time tout and sing ArtFire's praises to anyone who would listen. Because there was some arguement with ArtFire about their compensation or lack thereof for working for HandMadeNews now they all hate ArtFire and can't say enough bad things about ArtFire either. How can anyone take these Bitches seriously now? They need to crawl back under the rocks they crawled out from under if you ask me. I think they should have picked a better name too like Internet Whores rather than Etsy Bitch, because now their beef is with ArtFire and to rename themselves ArtFire Bitch would be too confusing, but if they had just named themselves Internet Whores they would not have to change names no matter whose bed they hop in and out of. So you have an Etsy forum of Bitches who take off from Etsy and take up residence over at ArtFire, then you add all this to the mix-a group that is working for ArtFire and the power stuggle that might ensue between the Bitches and ArtFire, and the Bitches trying to Lord it over the "common folk, and just taking into account that they are bitches to begin with and not the only bitches that left Etsy for ArtFire-is it any fricking wonder the forum over there imploded? And this is what their little whine thread in the forum right now is really all about. Artfire got what they deserved trying to deal with these Bitches, the Bitches got exactly what they deserved to, and Etsy is getting what they deserve right now for letting their whine continue on their forum.I am going to post the relevant comments on this blog post in case anyone deletes their comment.
The Sneaky One said...
Its pretty awful. After the treatment I received at HMN, I will never, ever doubt how absolutely nuts Tony is, and how vengeful he can get when people question his thinking.
November 8, 2009 4:25 AM
PussDaddy said...
What is HMN?
Would you sit there and name names of people who are already harrassing you by email or convo or whatever? It is also my understanding that the person may be disable in some way.
PussDaddy
November 8, 2009 4:48 AM
The Sneaky One said...
Puss, its HandmadeNews. We fought for getting our columnists to be paid fairly, and we ended up getting the axe entirely. All because Tony can't contain his temper and cannot stand it when other people prove him wrong. I still haven't seen my earnings from when they let us go on Oct 1.
Anon, yes I sell on Artfire, but no, Artfire is not run by EB. That is a logic fail on your part. Unless you are talking about bitches in general, then I can totally see that.
November 8, 2009 9:23 AM
PussDaddy said...
Is this HandmadeNews?
http://www.handmadenews.org/home/index.php
PussDaddy
November 8, 2009 10:06 AM
The Sneaky One said...
Yes, that's HandmadeNews. I was Editor of the Featured Artisan department.
Most of us have left HMN because of this. The only thing they could offer us was free accounts for life as compensation for all the work we did.
We can do better, and I guess we eventually will. Just proves a pattern that Tony is volatile and immature. I am sorry for anyone who has to deal with him in this instance.
November 8, 2009 12:35 PM
WindysDesigns said...
Wait, so let me get this straight, the Etsy Bitches have shops on Etsy and shops on Artfire, they worked (until very recently) for Artfire for free for life shops?????????????
Well doesn't that put things in perspective. I think EB just lost my respect. I had no idea their ulterior motive was to slag Etsy to build up Artfire.
So you're not really bitching for change, you were compensated for tearing Etsy and their admin down. No wonder you don't want anyone to know who you are.
I am thoroughly disgusted.
November 8, 2009 9:03 PM
PussDaddy said...
Windy, another thing I have always said was that if people thought the Etsy Bitches cared anything about anyone other than themselves then they were crazy. They rant and rave and put on a good show but in the end it is really all about the bitches and always has been.
PussDaddy
November 8, 2009 9:30
WindysDesigns said...
You know, it's one thing to point out Etsy's foibles and gaffes, I don't disagree with a lot of what they say. It's just that my reason for speaking out is to call attention to it in the hopes that if enough bad press is generated it might spur some positive action. I mistakenly thought the EB's were doing it for the same reason. To find out they were in bed with Artfire is just treasonous to me.
As for the rest of the drama, I've only read a handful of threads over there and actually participated in one. I didnt get to read what went on that began the forum post erasures, but knowing who was involved, especially the ones that came later, it didn't surprise me, based on their Etsy forum participation.
And please, spare me the sob stories, it's just a ploy to garner more sympathy, which is now what is happening in the Etsy forums where the probation squad is complaining now about the site just a few short weeks ago was the next best thing to sliced bread and would be Etsy's downfall. I can only hope that Etsy is taking notes.
As for your shopping escapade with Julie....I give you a lot of credit for not losing your cool with her. I hadn't heard about her until that thread and I knew something was up with her. Then I read your thread about not being able to find your purchase and she hopped in and O.M.G. You were a saint.I know that whole scene just earned you a spot on the nice list for Christmas!lol
November 8, 2009 11:03 PM
PussDaddy said...
I admit that this is just about the funniest damn thing I have seen in my life. One day it is ETSY SUCKS, WE LOVE ARTFIRE! And now they are using the Etsy forum to whine and cry and bash away at ArtFire now that ArtFire put the bitches in their place. If I were Etsy I would lock their fucking threads and mute their asses one by one if they insist on bringing their ArtFire drama there. What a bunch of wishy washy self absorbed two faced people.
LOL. Thanks Windy. See I didn't know she was on the thread because she was messaging me at ArtFire too and emailing me and I was talking to her at both of those places. I was surprised she was on the thread when I went back to it. These people with their damn opinions and big mouths, half the time they don't know anything about that of which they speak and should just keep their damned mouths shut. At least I am right some of the time.
November 9, 2009 12:07 AM
Still a Bitch, Just not an EtsyBitch said...
For the record, EB did not start out as a means to promote Artfire. Artfire came to EB to buy a years worth of advertising sometime in the Fall of 2008 (I think September). Discussions between a certain individual EB and Artfire John resulted in that individual EB getting a job with Artfire (as an independent contractor I believe). The quality of EB blog posts started sliding downhill from that point in my opinion.
Just wanted to clarify if anyone cares.
November 9, 2009 5:29 AM
Anonymous said...
Windys-
I just caught that,too - that the etsybitches worked for artfire. Whether it was one or more, it's apparent that the EB blog is tainted. Well, it was tainted when AF put up their ad. At that point, I was feeling ookey about EB and artfire.
I'm amazed the thread is still going on at Etsy. There are only the few sellers incolved who are posting. I wonder if they realize what it signifies that no one else wants to post in that thread. Maybe there isn't so much sympathy for them as they think?
These are all the ones who were on AF saying how they hated Etsy and Artfire was so much more fair, didn't play favorites and all that. Customized was the worst - downright mean to anyone who showed any disagreement with the Queen Bees. Her buddies Glittercritter and cctexan were almost as bad. What's sad is that these ladies seem to think it was okay to act nasty to people because in their minds AF was a "community" and "at the end of the day ,they all supported each other" (I'm paraphrasing what was said in the etsy thread).
They'll be bad in the etsy forums from now on, bitching about etsy. Some things never change. *Sigh*
November 9, 2009 6:23 AM
I also posted about this on the Etsy Bitch's Does Etsy Suck? About.com article that the Etsy Bitches are touting on the front page of their blog right now. My posts are number 36 and 37 and 38 in case they delete them.
http://
diyfashion.about.com/b/2009/10/26/does-etsy-suck.htm
(36)PussDaddy says:
Are you aware that the Etsy Bitches were given free lifetime shops on ArtFire to write articles for HandmadeNews? Here is a blog post of mine about it where a couple of Etsy Bitches confirm this in the comment section of another blog post on my blog. How can they have any credibility when they are basically in the pocket of ArtFire and their mission is to hate on Etsy and sing ArtFire’s praises?
http://pussdaddyblogs.blogspot.com/2009/11/omg-etsy-bitches-have-been-in-bed-with.html
PussDaddy
(37)November 10, 2009 at 7:18 am(37) PussDaddy says:
Also, I think it is important to get a fair and balanced perspective on things. One cannot give a fair and balanced perspective on one venue when one is being compensated by another venue with a free lifetime shop. And in the interest of fairness I am going to post on my own blog that I posted this here, so that it stays here, in the interest of being fair and balanced. Thank you,
PussDaddy
(38) PussDaddy says:
Also, no one needs an Etsy Bitch to fill any gap as far as providing a platform for people to bitch about Etsy. Anyone is free to start their own blog and bitch, and they can do it in another name, or anonymously, and allow anonymous posters to post there. So what the heck does anyone need Etsy Bitch for? I’m not saying that Etsy doesn’t have problems buyer and seller wise, I am just saying that Etsy Bitch was basically in the pocket of ArtFire, provided with free shops for life to do HandMadeNews articles, and to bash Etsy and make ArtFire look like Saints, and once this business venture went south, now you see they hate ArtFire now as well.
No one needs paid mouthpieces like Etsy Bitch to do a damn thing.
PussDaddy
This About.com peep is the same one who cause so much drama with her double ought spy thread in the forum. I get so sick of seeing these Etsy Bitches play their self-serving forum games and people just eating it up.
http://
www.etsy.com/forums_thread.php?thread_id=6338972&page=23
Alluna says:
Thanks guys.
I'm putting together an article and had to play devils advocate, here. The article focus is that underpricing is affecting the way the average consumer views handmade goods. I just needed some opinions on both sides of that fence and some information about pricing.
Stirring the pot is fun, though, eh? If I can quote your opinion in my article, please let me know. Not your opinions on Sculpey, though. I may get sued.
underoakstudios, sunflowerexpress, savor, ArtsAfire, DesignedByLucinda, fivelittlegems were especially helpful.
Again, sorry to get you all fired up, but it's an evil way to get people talking about something like prices. I've been selling to galleries and shops in my area for years and have never been told that I've overpriced, but I've always had to keep a close eye on underpricing.
Sadly, underpricing is one of the reasons that I don't sell (not anything but paper bracelets just to keep an account open) on Etsy. Remember when the same thing happened on eBay (before Etsy)? Handmade clothes used to go for so much more there...
Anyway, thanks again for participating!!
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